[Swoop] Re: swoop

[Dlmcg1 at aol.com]

In a message dated 10/23/2004 10:29:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
bparsia at isr.umd.edu writes:
> the one thing i tried to find but did not find was a way to see the 
> ontology from just the told information (not once pellet had done its 
> reasoning.  i thought maybe if i chose rdfs rather than pellet that i 
> would not see the result of the equivalences but this was not the 
> case).

RDFS view does some "light" reasoning over the ontology. We don't have 
a *pure* told view...probably the closest is rdfs without show 
inherited. Or view source and the RDF/XML in all it's glory. I'm 
pushing for a pure told view so we can actually handle NCI.
i would vote for  a pure told view as an option.  i used this a lot in 
classic.

[snip]
>> Ok, I think I understand the bug, though show inherited should fix it.
>
> maybe it does in your newer version but in mine - show inherited is 
> checked and i do not see it.

Nope, it doesn't in mine.

>> If you delete the old domain and make the domain go onto   
>> nga:EmergencySituation it shows up correctly (the equiv label sorts 
>> alphabetically, but the domain retrieval when you have only rdfs 
>> reasoning enabled doesn't look things up correctly; hmm, adding 
>> pellet doesn't help! eeek)
>
> i tried deleting the domain of location and then adding the domain of 
> emergency situation and that worked  but that is not what needs to be 
> modeled.

Yep, i wasn't proposing it as a fix, just as help for figuring out 
what's wrong.

> (yes - i know they are equivalent  but this is a philosophical 
> modeling question as well....)

So, as a user, would you prefer to see 3 different views depending on 
which class you clicked on, with the italicized/show inherited being 
different for each one? (i.e., italicized only for TerroristEvent and 
if you turn off show inherited, it only shows it there?)
if i had told and derived it would be ok.
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